well, the economy still growing so. as a matter of fact, going much more slowly now than when he made that statement. so if you believe the same thing can you just don't want to raise taxes on people. the reality is it's not just wealthy people. it's not just donald trump you are taxing. it's all those businesses that employ one quarter of the workers of america. small businesses taxed as individuals. you have raise taxes any skill jobs. that's why the national federation of independent business said your plan will kill 700,000 jobs. i want to kill jobs in this environment. i'll make one more point. >> moderator: let's go to the taxes thing for a moment. mr. president. obama, well, we've had this discussion before. >> moderator: in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. obama: governor romney has ruled out revenue. romney: look, the revenue i get is by more people working, getting higher pay, pay more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. the idea of taxing people mor